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PostPosted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 1:05 pm 

Im with you Santa, anyone messes with you ill kill em. :twisted:


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 1:05 pm 

just like to say that i think if harp doesnt want you in the clan that should be taken very seriously because everyone in this clan likes harp as far as i know and this thread may be posted by you but it isnt yours, this is the clans thread and he is voicing his opinion of you on it which we would like to hear before we let someone we may not want in the clan in.


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 1:09 pm 

Whel, harpoon is the only person that seems to have a problem with me, =\.


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 1:58 pm 

Don't let him join thats what I say. He and baby skiller are trying to give harpoon a very bad name, I saw that baby skiller changed his name into "open" harpoons skiller and that they would flame eachother to make screenshots for proof that harpoons a bad person.


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 Post subject: Re: Meh
PostPosted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 2:50 pm 

mr accessory wrote:
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Hell no.
If this kid gets in here, im leaving.
Your 'proof' (in your siggy) is somewhat flawed, I'm called a macroer all the time, and I dont always respond, it means nothing...as for the rest:

- If he macroed, he'd be banned. I know that for a fact. Everyone who macros is at one point or another for breaking rule #7, you couldn't get as high as he is macroing.

- Drop transfering money...Meh, that's more possible to get away with, but if done as largly as I believe your acusing him of, even that is detected.

-- Buying money...There is no way he would get away with that...as in my case, I didn't even buy gold and was perm banned for a 4M donation.

In conclusion, no there's no way he macroed, no way he bought money, and a small chance he was able to transfer his money... :wink:



No, nothing against you Harpoon, I'm just defending The1337santa :)


well im not taking any sides just pointing a few things out:

-if he macroed he runs the risk of getting banned he might not have been banned tho...

-drop tradeing is not detected as far as im conscernd, my friend used to multi log on the SAME computer ALL the time (like he would do it evryday) and he NEVER got so much as a warning. i am not saying it is safe to do im saying there is a good chance you wont get banned for it. i am not saying i have done so myself ether so dont jump and start flaming me please...

-i have no idea what-so-ever what the big deal with large to empty trades is, me and my brother pass 10s of millions back and forth all the time and never have we been warned or banned for such things.


Drop trading is definately detected, I know many many people who attempt to drop trade and get bans, and as you said, 'used.' it used to be undetectable, but now they can see quick logins on accounts, if it looks suspitious, it's easily seen, check their privacy policy if you dont believe me on the checking IPs:
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As for buying gold, you may have gotten lucky...I have yet to see what information they had to say I bought it...A penny wasn't lost on my side :roll: ...ah well...



And Zzz, Harp is saying that The1337santa macroed, and transfered/bought gold which is why he shouldn't get it, he had some chat logs that could've been interpreted as sarcasm or could have been edited, who knows...

Considering he met the reqs and Jagex never banned him, I'd say just let him join. If he sudden't gets banned for one of the acused offences, well, then now ya know, but I highly doubt he would have gotten away with any of them :)

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 Post subject: Re: Meh
PostPosted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 3:54 pm 
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And Zzz, Harp is saying that The1337santa macroed, and transfered/bought gold which is why he shouldn't get it, he had some chat logs that could've been interpreted as sarcasm or could have been edited, who knows...


He might be saying that on irc or whereever, but I still haven't seen him post that or any other reason on this thread. And I need to see those reasons in order to accept or decline this application.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 4:08 pm 

Hi Santa, I don´t know if u recognize me...but I have seen u in game many times, I don´t know if u have done any of that what harp said u have done...I hope u havn´t. I hope u don´t leave harp if Santa join...And Santa if u join the clan...Welcome :P


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 Post subject: Re: Meh
PostPosted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 4:31 pm 

Zzzamorak wrote:
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And Zzz, Harp is saying that The1337santa macroed, and transfered/bought gold which is why he shouldn't get it, he had some chat logs that could've been interpreted as sarcasm or could have been edited, who knows...


He might be saying that on irc or whereever, but I still haven't seen him post that or any other reason on this thread. And I need to see those reasons in order to accept or decline this application.
Makes since :)


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 5:21 pm 

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Drop trading is definately detected, I know many many people who attempt to drop trade and get bans, and as you said, 'used.' it used to be undetectable, but now they can see quick logins on accounts, if it looks suspitious, it's easily seen, check their privacy policy if you dont believe me on the checking IPs:
fast logging out of one accont and into another is not agesnt to rules last i checked <_<

do you realize how meny people do this evry second? they dont check over evry single person who logs out and in. there is no way they check it all, i am going to guess there are about 50 people doing this at any given time, jagex checking all this would be a major waste of staff


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 5:28 pm 

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Drop trading is definately detected, I know many many people who attempt to drop trade and get bans, and as you said, 'used.' it used to be undetectable, but now they can see quick logins on accounts, if it looks suspitious, it's easily seen, check their privacy policy if you dont believe me on the checking IPs:
fast logging out of one accont and into another is not agesnt to rules last i checked <_<

do you realize how meny people do this evry second? they dont check over evry single person who logs out and in. there is no way they check it all, i am going to guess there are about 50 people doing this at any given time, jagex checking all this would be a major waste of staff
your 100% right...but then again, is recieving a donation against the rules :)


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mr accessory wrote:
do you realize how meny people do this evry second? they dont check over evry single person who logs out and in. there is no way they check it all, i am going to guess there are about 50 people doing this at any given time, jagex checking all this would be a major waste of staff


It could easily be checked automatically. They already keep track of multiple accounts logged in from the same location. They already keep track of what items an account has dropped on the ground (try dropping something in normal mode in your house and change to building mode, or drop something in prison pete random event). If they just combine those and store what an account has left on the ground when it logs out, they can check if another account that logs in from the same location picks those same items up from the ground.

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your 100% right...but then again, is recieving a donation against the rules :)


It's not against the rules, and you shouldn't be banned for it. But if the donation is big enough (those unbalanced trades they talk about), you do get flagged. And then they can investigate it closer to see if there's any rulebreaking involved.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 8:30 pm 

You all are focusing to much on the word 'drop trade', when there are other ways to transfer the money and not get caught so easily. Just look at teh unseen, hundreds of mils between accounts and he even admitted to it, and he doesn't get banned.

'Drop trade' is just a universal term for "item transfer"

I'm not accusing anyone of anything but if the shoe fits :roll:


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 8:36 pm 

Everyone is gonna vote AGAINST me getting in, only for the fact that harpoon is saying stuff about me. =\


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 8:58 pm 

I know i'm not the most active person on the forum (my internet is rubbish) but i have known the1337santa for quite a while, and so far have found nothing displeasing about him. OK there might be a few people against him joining, but as far as im concerned, he's innocent until proven guilty.
A definate yes from me

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 10:17 pm 
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I do not know if Santa should join, because of people flaming him. I would love him in the clan, but I mean for his own good.

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